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Hi, yes I noticed I can use keyboard input on pattern editor and it does advance the next step. That is great. My NDLR is synced to Ableton and Push 2 controller sends the midi key. Tempo is 135 BPM. It is possible to just let Ableton play midi clip and output data to NDLR. That is great. The only thing is that NDLR is too slow and even with 135 BPM (medium tempo) it does miss some information. My midi clip has one note, but NDLR did generate 3 notes in the pattern editor. When I stop the clip and input manually through keyboard or NDLR itself, it is okay.

But what concerns me more is how to recreate this very simple pattern for motif. I'm interested only in motifs here, not pads.

I have uploaded screenshots here: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq5X0D4OWWAThLE4y5I_...w?e=BBrTf7

You can notice on iPad app I have been able to do it easily in 5 minutes. Notice there is a caveat, everything is A minor, but you have the option to change bass root note inside A minor. Which creates this specific arp sequence I found in some sample pack.

The chords are: A minor (i A), VII G, VI F

So we have first caveat in NDLR: changing bass root note.

Next caveat: the arp pattern contains 21 notes. It took me 1h to recreate the rhythm pattern and pattern itself inside NDLR, but it's not done yet. Because the pattern editor can contain only 16 notes, I have been able to reproduce only part of this loop. NDLR pattern can contain only 10 notes to make it loopable (play only half of the loop in sync). If pattern would allow 32 steps, it would be normal. But then rhythm would need to have 64 steps in order to represent empty notes successfully.

So right now I can only try to make two patterns and one pattern will have 16 notes, second pattern will have the missing 5 notes. Then I need to use matrix modulation to trigger pattern change using LFO. But I smell it will not loop correctly the second pattern with 5 notes.

All in all, it takes like 2-3 hours to recreate this simple pattern on NDLR and perhaps I will not even be able to do it. While on iOS it takes 5 minutes in ChordFlow app.

Really disappointed with NDLR. I expected it will be for dance music. But for this groove and ghost notes, 16 notes in pattern editor is a show stopper. Even if I will be able to do it, there is still the problem with not being possible to change bass root note or motif root note and it is very time consuming with matrix modulation just to fix pattern length. It also takes up more memory because you need to use two patterns effectively cutting pattern memory to half.

I'm software developer, I hope this project will not end abandoned. It would be great if after some years, they opensourced the firmware.

Right now my solution will probably be: Try to find some arp plugin on iOS or PC (VST) which allows midi input of a root note. Then NDLR will output a chord change in midi to external arp plugin which would contain pattern with 32 steps. But I need to look into it if NDLR can send some information when pressing I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII buttons. Probably will need some midi remapping plugin in the middle to send the correct midi note information for external arp plugin.

And this all started with a simple motif in mind :-)

PS: Notice on motif screenshot the C4 note stays the same even when changing chord. That is because it stays in A minor chord all the time, you just change bass root note inside A minor scale.
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Import midi pattern - by Cyberluke - 01-18-2021, 04:46 AM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Cyberluke - 01-18-2021, 05:49 PM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Jesse Johannesen - 01-18-2021, 11:01 PM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Cyberluke - 01-19-2021, 02:28 AM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Jesse Johannesen - 01-19-2021, 10:03 PM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Cyberluke - 01-20-2021, 02:45 AM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Jesse Johannesen - 01-20-2021, 08:21 AM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Cyberluke - 01-20-2021, 10:08 AM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Cyberluke - 01-21-2021, 06:54 AM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Jesse Johannesen - 01-22-2021, 10:11 PM
RE: Import midi pattern - by Cyberluke - 09-06-2022, 05:45 PM

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