12-07-2020, 09:58 PM
(12-07-2020, 12:33 PM)microbug Wrote:(12-04-2020, 09:08 AM)This is still a work in progress. We sent them detailed info and easy to follow instructions to configure a teensy microprocessor to show up identically via usb midi for their testing. I'll talk with Darryl later today and see if there's been any further word. Wrote: Jesse
I investigated this a bit further and ran tdd, an USB descriptor tool. This shows that the NDLRs Teensy is not configured as it should be (wrong USB interface type/class).
Here is the dump from the NDLR (i have marked missing and different information in red):
Information for device NDLR (VID=0x16C0 PID=0x0489):
Connection Information:
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Device current bus speed: FullSpeed
Device address: 0x0001
Current configuration value: 0x01
Number of open pipes: 5
Device Descriptor:
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0x12 bLength
0x01 bDescriptorType
0x0110 bcdUSB
0x00 bDeviceClass
0x00 bDeviceSubClass
0x00 bDeviceProtocol
0x40 bMaxPacketSize0 (64 bytes)
0x16C0 idVendor
0x0489 idProduct
0x0211 bcdDevice
0x01 iManufacturer missing
0x02 iProduct missing
0x03 iSerialNumber
0x01 bNumConfigurations
Configuration Descriptor:
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0x09 bLength
0x02 bDescriptorType
0x00F5 wTotalLength (245 bytes)
0x03 bNumInterfaces
0x01 bConfigurationValue
0x00 iConfiguration
0xC0 bmAttributes (Self-powered Device) should be "Bus powered device" like on PCR300
0x32 bMaxPower (100 mA)
Interface Association Descriptor:
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0x08 bLength
0x0B bDescriptorType
0x00 bFirstInterface
0x02 bInterfaceCount
0x02 bFunctionClass (Communication Device Class) should be 0x01 "Audio Device Class"
0x02 bFunctionSubClass (Abstract Control Model - ACM) should be 0x01 "Audio Control Interface"
0x01 bFunctionProtocol (ITU-T V.250) should be 0x00 "Audio Protocol undefined"
0x04 iFunction
Interface Descriptor:
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0x09 bLength
0x04 bDescriptorType
0x00 bInterfaceNumber
0x00 bAlternateSetting
0x01 bNumEndPoints
0x02 bInterfaceClass (Communication Device Class) should be 0x01 "Audio Device Class"
0x02 bInterfaceSubClass (Abstract Control Model - ACM) should be 0x03 "MIDI Streaming Interface"
0x01 bInterfaceProtocol (ITU-T V.250) should be 0x00 "Audio Protocol undefined"
0x00 iInterface
CDC Header Functional Descriptor:
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0x05 bFunctionalLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x00 bDescriptorSubtype
0x0110 bcdCDC
CDC Call Management Functional Descriptor:
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0x05 bFunctionalLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bmCapabilities
0x01 bDataInterface
CDC Abstract Control Management Functional Descriptor:
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0x04 bFunctionalLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x06 bmCapabilities
CDC Union Functional Descriptor:
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0x05 bFunctionalLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x06 bDescriptorSubtype
0x00 bControlInterface
0x01 bSubordinateInterface(0)
Endpoint Descriptor:
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0x07 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x81 bEndpointAddress (IN endpoint 1)
0x03 bmAttributes (Transfer: Interrupt / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0010 wMaxPacketSize (1 x 16 bytes)
0x40 bInterval (64 frames)
Interface Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x04 bDescriptorType
0x01 bInterfaceNumber
0x00 bAlternateSetting
0x02 bNumEndPoints
0x0A bInterfaceClass (CDC Data)
0x00 bInterfaceSubClass
0x00 bInterfaceProtocol
0x00 iInterface
Endpoint Descriptor:
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0x07 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x02 bEndpointAddress (OUT endpoint 2)
0x02 bmAttributes (Transfer: Bulk / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0040 wMaxPacketSize (64 bytes)
0x00 bInterval
Endpoint Descriptor:
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0x07 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x83 bEndpointAddress (IN endpoint 3)
0x02 bmAttributes (Transfer: Bulk / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0040 wMaxPacketSize (64 bytes)
0x00 bInterval
Interface Descriptor:
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0x09 bLength
0x04 bDescriptorType
0x02 bInterfaceNumber
0x00 bAlternateSetting
0x02 bNumEndPoints
0x01 bInterfaceClass (Audio Device Class)
0x03 bInterfaceSubClass (MIDI Streaming Interface)
0x00 bInterfaceProtocol (Audio Protocol undefined)
0x00 iInterface
MS Interface Header Descriptor:
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0x07 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x0100 bcdMSC
0x007F wTotalLength (127 bytes)
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
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0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x01 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x02 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x03 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x02 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x04 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x01 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x05 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x06 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x07 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x06 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x08 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x05 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x09 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x0A bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x0B bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x0A baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x0C bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x09 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x0D bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x0E bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x0F bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x0E baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x10 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x0D baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
Endpoint Descriptor (Audio/MIDI 1.0):
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x05 bEndpointAddress (OUT endpoint 5)
0x02 bmAttributes (Transfer: Bulk / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0040 wMaxPacketSize (64 bytes)
0x00 bInterval
0x00 bRefresh
0x00 bSynchAddress
MS Bulk Data Endpoint Descriptor:
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0x08 bLength
0x25 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x04 bNumEmbMIDIJack
0x01 baAssocJackID(1)
0x05 baAssocJackID(2)
0x09 baAssocJackID(3)
0x0D baAssocJackID(4)
Endpoint Descriptor (Audio/MIDI 1.0):
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0x09 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x84 bEndpointAddress (IN endpoint 4)
0x02 bmAttributes (Transfer: Bulk / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0040 wMaxPacketSize (64 bytes)
0x00 bInterval
0x00 bRefresh
0x00 bSynchAddress
MS Bulk Data Endpoint Descriptor:
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0x08 bLength
0x25 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x04 bNumEmbMIDIJack
0x03 baAssocJackID(1)
0x07 baAssocJackID(2)
0x0B baAssocJackID(3)
0x0F baAssocJackID(4)
Microsoft OS Descriptor is not available. Error code: 0x0000001F
String Descriptor Table
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Index LANGID String
0x00 0x0000
0x01 0x0000 "Teensyduino"
0x02 0x0000 "NDLR"
0x03 0x0000 "4294967295"
0x04 0x0000 Request failed with 0x0000001F something is wrong here
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Here is the dump of the Novation Circuit:
Information for device Circuit (VID=0x1235 PID=0x0079):
Connection Information:
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Device current bus speed: FullSpeed
Device address: 0x0001
Current configuration value: 0x00
Number of open pipes: 0
Device Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x12 bLength
0x01 bDescriptorType
0x0200 bcdUSB
0x00 bDeviceClass
0x00 bDeviceSubClass
0x00 bDeviceProtocol
0x40 bMaxPacketSize0 (64 bytes)
0x1235 idVendor
0x0079 idProduct
0x0200 bcdDevice
0x01 iManufacturer "Focusrite A.E"
0x02 iProduct "Circuit"
0x03 iSerialNumber "V1.00"
0x01 bNumConfigurations
Configuration Descriptor:
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0x09 bLength
0x02 bDescriptorType
0x0074 wTotalLength (116 bytes)
0x02 bNumInterfaces
0x01 bConfigurationValue
0x00 iConfiguration
0xC0 bmAttributes (Self-powered Device)
0x32 bMaxPower (100 mA)
Interface Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x04 bDescriptorType
0x00 bInterfaceNumber
0x00 bAlternateSetting
0x00 bNumEndPoints
0x01 bInterfaceClass (Audio Device Class)
0x01 bInterfaceSubClass (Audio Control Interface)
0x00 bInterfaceProtocol (Audio Protocol undefined)
0x02 iInterface "Circuit"
AC Interface Header Descriptor:
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0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x0100 bcdADC
0x0009 wTotalLength (9 bytes)
0x01 bInCollection
0x01 baInterfaceNr(1)
Interface Descriptor:
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0x09 bLength
0x04 bDescriptorType
0x01 bInterfaceNumber
0x00 bAlternateSetting
0x02 bNumEndPoints
0x01 bInterfaceClass (Audio Device Class)
0x03 bInterfaceSubClass (MIDI Streaming Interface)
0x00 bInterfaceProtocol (Audio Protocol undefined)
0x02 iInterface "Circuit"
MS Interface Header Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x07 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x0100 bcdMSC
0x0034 wTotalLength (52 bytes)
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x02 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x03 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x04 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x01 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x05 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x01 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS Element Descriptor:
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0x0F bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x04 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bElementID
0x02 bNrInputPins
0x02 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x03 baSourceID(2)
0x01 baSourcePin(2)
0x02 bNrOutputPins
0x00 bInTerminalLink
0x00 bOutTerminalLink
0x01 bElCapsSize
bmElementCaps:
0x03
0x02 iElement "Circuit"
Endpoint Descriptor (Audio/MIDI 1.0):
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x01 bEndpointAddress (OUT endpoint 1)
0x02 bmAttributes (Transfer: Bulk / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0040 wMaxPacketSize (64 bytes)
0x00 bInterval
0x00 bRefresh
0x00 bSynchAddress
MS Bulk Data Endpoint Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x05 bLength
0x25 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bNumEmbMIDIJack
0x02 baAssocJackID(1)
Endpoint Descriptor (Audio/MIDI 1.0):
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x81 bEndpointAddress (IN endpoint 1)
0x02 bmAttributes (Transfer: Bulk / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0040 wMaxPacketSize (64 bytes)
0x00 bInterval
0x00 bRefresh
0x00 bSynchAddress
MS Bulk Data Endpoint Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x05 bLength
0x25 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bNumEmbMIDIJack
0x04 baAssocJackID(1)
Microsoft OS Descriptor:
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0x0C bLength
0x03 bDescriptorType
Hex dump:
0x0C 0x03 0x9C 0x00 0x7E 0x00 0x01 0x00 0x20 0x00
0x04 0x00
String Descriptor Table
--------------------------------
Index LANGID String
0x00 0x0000 0x0409
0x01 0x0409 "Focusrite A.E"
0x02 0x0409 "Circuit"
0x03 0x0409 "V1.00"
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And here the one from an Edirol PCR-300 MIDI Keyboard in Generic (Classcompliant) Mode:
Information for device PCR (VID=0x0582 PID=0x00CE):
Connection Information:
------------------------------
Device current bus speed: FullSpeed
Device address: 0x0001
Current configuration value: 0x01
Number of open pipes: 2
Device Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x12 bLength
0x01 bDescriptorType
0x0110 bcdUSB
0x00 bDeviceClass
0x00 bDeviceSubClass
0x00 bDeviceProtocol
0x40 bMaxPacketSize0 (64 bytes)
0x0582 idVendor
0x00CE idProduct
0x0100 bcdDevice
0x01 iManufacturer "EDIROL"
0x02 iProduct "PCR"
0x00 iSerialNumber
0x01 bNumConfigurations
Configuration Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x02 bDescriptorType
0x0095 wTotalLength (149 bytes)
0x02 bNumInterfaces
0x01 bConfigurationValue
0x00 iConfiguration
0x80 bmAttributes (Bus-powered Device)
0x96 bMaxPower (300 mA)
Interface Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x04 bDescriptorType
0x00 bInterfaceNumber
0x00 bAlternateSetting
0x00 bNumEndPoints
0x01 bInterfaceClass (Audio Device Class)
0x01 bInterfaceSubClass (Audio Control Interface)
0x00 bInterfaceProtocol (Audio Protocol undefined)
0x00 iInterface
AC Interface Header Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x0100 bcdADC
0x0009 wTotalLength (9 bytes)
0x01 bInCollection
0x01 baInterfaceNr(1)
Interface Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x04 bDescriptorType
0x01 bInterfaceNumber
0x00 bAlternateSetting
0x02 bNumEndPoints
0x01 bInterfaceClass (Audio Device Class)
0x03 bInterfaceSubClass (MIDI Streaming Interface)
0x00 bInterfaceProtocol (Audio Protocol undefined)
0x00 iInterface
MS Interface Header Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x07 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x0100 bcdMSC
0x0071 wTotalLength (113 bytes)
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x10 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x11 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x20 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x21 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI IN Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x02 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x22 bJackID
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x30 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x20 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x31 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x21 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x01 bJackType
0x32 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x22 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x40 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x10 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
MS MIDI OUT Jack Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x24 bDescriptorType
0x03 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bJackType
0x41 bJackID
0x01 bNrInputPins
0x11 baSourceID(1)
0x01 baSourcePin(1)
0x00 iJack
Endpoint Descriptor (Audio/MIDI 1.0):
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x01 bEndpointAddress (OUT endpoint 1)
0x02 bmAttributes (Transfer: Bulk / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0040 wMaxPacketSize (64 bytes)
0x00 bInterval
0x00 bRefresh
0x00 bSynchAddress
MS Bulk Data Endpoint Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x06 bLength
0x25 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x02 bNumEmbMIDIJack
0x10 baAssocJackID(1)
0x11 baAssocJackID(2)
Endpoint Descriptor (Audio/MIDI 1.0):
------------------------------
0x09 bLength
0x05 bDescriptorType
0x82 bEndpointAddress (IN endpoint 2)
0x02 bmAttributes (Transfer: Bulk / Synch: None / Usage: Data)
0x0040 wMaxPacketSize (64 bytes)
0x00 bInterval
0x00 bRefresh
0x00 bSynchAddress
MS Bulk Data Endpoint Descriptor:
------------------------------
0x07 bLength
0x25 bDescriptorType
0x01 bDescriptorSubtype
0x03 bNumEmbMIDIJack
0x30 baAssocJackID(1)
0x31 baAssocJackID(2)
0x32 baAssocJackID(3)
Microsoft OS Descriptor:
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0x00 bLength
0x00 bDescriptorType
Hex dump:
String Descriptor Table
--------------------------------
Index LANGID String
0x00 0x0000 0x0409
0x01 0x0409 "EDIROL"
0x02 0x0409 "PCR"
------------------------------
Sorry for the long posting. Hope this is of any help. Please note that a bootloader has its own descriptor data set, so it can be declared as mass storage or other class for uploading firmware etc. This is how several companies handle that. I can provoide bootloader USB readouts from my iConnectivity interfaces if these are of any interest.
Hey, this is really interesting, I will pass this data on to Steve and perhaps he will know what is going on here better than me. Hopefully this will be helpful.
Thank you microbug!
Jesse